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boozing at odds with cycling culture

  • by Lee Rodgers
  • Posted on December 4, 2013December 4, 2013

by Cam Whiting, of CyclingIQ The bicycle industry has a drinking problem. This statement may…

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10 responses to “boozing at odds with cycling culture”

  1. Jim Avatar
    Jim
    December 4, 2013

    Bravo!!! Excellent and concise summation of this very real moral dilemma that so many of us struggle with…

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  2. Ade Avatar
    Ade
    December 4, 2013

    Fair enough… each to their own. But, you’ll never know that righteous feeling of riding through and out the other side of a hangover.

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    1. crankpunk Avatar
      crankpunk
      December 5, 2013

      crankpunk concurs

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  3. Mike Jacoubowsky Avatar
    Mike Jacoubowsky
    December 4, 2013

    So I’m not the only one? In my circle, which involves trips to the Midwest, where pubs are more common than fire hydrants, they don’t get me. I’ll have my “annual beer” in a sort of celebration, or perhaps shock them with a mixed drink (Gin & Tonnic). One of the 4 or 5 drinks I’ll have that entire year. And they don’t get that. They understand people who drink (lots) and people who can’t drink (21 step program). They can’t understand somebody who can drink… but generally doesn’t.

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  4. Landon Avatar
    Landon
    December 5, 2013

    Right on! You make a great point.

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  5. On yer bike Avatar
    On yer bike
    December 5, 2013

    Bloody Hell… I thought Punk had gone T-total but then realised he was not the author !!

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    1. crankpunk Avatar
      crankpunk
      December 5, 2013

      i could never give up on the Belgians…

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  6. lucian stanescu Avatar
    lucian stanescu
    December 5, 2013

    Nice text, thanks!

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  7. David Schloss Avatar
    David Schloss
    December 6, 2013

    This isn’t cycling’s core you’re talking about. Cycling’s core was the horsing around as a messenger. What you’re talking about is Asian Manufacturing’s core, and that’s true across industries. I had the same experiences in the photography industry, but I’d never say that a night of booze-fueled karaoke with a Japanese CEO had anything to do with the core of photography. Likewise for events with technology companies that produced in Asia.

    You’re immersed in the culture of asian business culture and protocol. A better take away would be “cycling’s core is at odds with asian manufacturing’s core.”

    The core of cycling are riders, small shops, the guys designing and building the bikes. The factories where carbon frames are spun out or derailleurs are mass produced aren’t the core of cycling. They’re factories.

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    1. cyclingiq Avatar
      cyclingiq
      December 7, 2013

      Given the one example of heavy-drinking I gave, I understand why you’d suggest I was confusing the heavy-drinking culture pervasive in Asian manufacturing with the broader culture of cycling. In an attempt to be concise, I had to leave out other experiences, in dissimilar places/environments from the article above. The aggregate of those experiences led me to conclude that a booze culture is widespread in the industry, and there is a disconnect between that culture and cycling’s core values. As for being “immersed in the culture of asian business culture and protocol”, that’s not correct (as most of my time is spent outside of Asia) nor is Asia the exclusive domain of my experiences.

      I have no experience in the photography industry, so won’t attempt to compare the two cultures, but you’re welcome to lend your own experiences from your time in the cycling industry too.

      I do like the way you made your point, though.

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