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what to do about Astana and Nibali?

  • by Lee Rodgers
  • Posted on December 2, 2014December 2, 2014

DoctorNurse (aka Stephen Nurse-Findlay) commented on my article from last week about Astana & Alexander ‘ChimneySweep’…

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14 responses to “what to do about Astana and Nibali?”

  1. John Toor Avatar
    John Toor
    December 2, 2014

    I don’t imagine ASO is going to invite Astana to any of their events next year, so the ‘what happens to Nibali’ question is probably moot. Either way he’ll be home watching TV come July. There is a precedent for this isn’t there? Oh yeah…it was Astana, disinvited for Vino’s doping, despite having the defending Tour champion. History repeats again.

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    1. crankpunk Avatar
      crankpunk
      December 2, 2014

      like a bad pickle…

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  2. Jamie J Avatar
    Jamie J
    December 2, 2014

    “I can’t think of another profession where people who have been found to be corrupt are then welcomed back as overseers, trainers and managers…” Banking maybe?

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  3. Jamie J Avatar
    Jamie J
    December 2, 2014

    “I can’t think of another profession where people who have been found to be corrupt are then welcomed back as overseers, trainers and managers…” Politics?

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    1. crankpunk Avatar
      crankpunk
      December 2, 2014

      haha yes, what lovely examples too! so dopers, you’re in fine, fine company…

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  4. Peter C Smith Avatar
    Peter C Smith
    December 2, 2014

    today’s French media report that LA has been out riding (training?) with Tejay vG, thanks to his old friend from Motorola days now manager at BMC Jim Ochowicz
    http://sports.orange.fr/cyclisme/armstrong-entraine-t-il-van-garderen-newsweb-sports_CNT00000065aYo.html

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    1. crankpunk Avatar
      crankpunk
      December 2, 2014

      yeah saw that one, amazing huh…

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  5. touristeroutier Avatar
    touristeroutier
    December 2, 2014

    While such measures make sense on a basic level, these are not solely up to the UCI; they must be adopted by WADA too. Otherwise all we will have is CAS overturning suspensions in a revolving door fashion.

    The other thing to consider that the goal is to rid the sport of cheats, not just cheats who got caught or confessed. So while such rules would keep Vino out, there are plenty of others with skeletons in the closet who will remain front and center.

    Thus such measures aren’t cures, but they are steps forward to tidy up the structure while the needed cultural changes take root.

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  6. Manuel Samaniego Avatar
    Manuel Samaniego
    December 2, 2014

    One possible step to begin dealing with situations like Astana’s is to suspend the entire team for a month if one rider is found positive (after all, in a team, you win together or you lose together). Enough of the “I didn’t know what such and such was doing”. But even in teams with shady characters, there are those who are trying to make a living in an honest way (riders and staff). For that, how about then sending the team, to the next race, with a diminished number of riders? 4 instead of 7, 6 instead of 9. And ban the rider (s), if proven guilty, for at least 4 years. Begin putting the pressure where it hurts (the pocket) and start embarking in a serious campaign of “punishing the crime and its perpetrators”. The soft stick policy the sport has been subjected over the years is no longer convincing anyone.
    Once you hit them where it hurts the most, then you might start to get their attention.

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  7. kiwi in mexico Avatar
    kiwi in mexico
    December 2, 2014

    why is it that we don’t hear from the sponsors, what’s their point of view when ‘their’ team gets caught like this? specialized should pull their bikes from the entire team, both conti and pro teams…but i can’t see that happening

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    1. crankpunk Avatar
      crankpunk
      December 3, 2014

      yeah agreed. back with LA you had Oakley and others going ‘oh really, he’s a doper huh, we are so shocked’ and i mean come on, guys in those companies ride, they heard the rumors, they saw the performances. but a cash cow is a cash cow. now what if Specialized really did step out and say ‘hey you know what, we are pulling out cos of these positives’ – now that would be something…

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  8. Velo Club Sud Eglise Avatar
    Velo Club Sud Eglise
    December 3, 2014

    Can’t remember where I saw / read it, but there was a suggestion that Astana could be denied a World Tour licence. Point being that some kind of sanction against the team would demonstrate more of a determination to clean up the sport AND apply pressure on teams to clean up their act (literally and figuratively).

    In the UK (and elsewhere in Europe) we’ve seen football teams relegated for various offences including match fixing and insolvency. It seems strange that if there’s any sanction applied in cycling it focuses purely on the individual (rider) and yet the employer (team) escapes any penalty.

    I’m not completely sold on ex dopers being unable to return to the sport (assuming they genuinely have recanted) but clearly Vino is giving that idea very little help.

    Clearly there’s a long long way to go when you have riders launching websites this week proclaiming that “..have never failed a doping test.”

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  9. Eugene Karlin Avatar
    Eugene Karlin
    December 19, 2014

    Very energetic blog, I enjoyed that bit. Will there be a part 2?|

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  10. nitsqseidl Avatar
    nitsqseidl
    October 2, 2020

    Muchas gracias. ?Como puedo iniciar sesion?

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