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Matt Cooke Interview: ‘You would never know their names if they had never taken drugs’

  • by Lee Rodgers
  • Posted on November 10, 2014November 10, 2014

American former professional rider (he has just retired at 35) Matt Cooke came on the…

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Hincapie’s Gran FRAUDO wanders ever further into The Absurd

  • by Lee Rodgers
  • Posted on October 23, 2014October 23, 2014

alternate realities? string theory, perhaps, where near-identical universes thrum alongside each other, where other variations…

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gran fondos & dopers: why we have to make a stand

  • by Lee Rodgers
  • Posted on May 5, 2014May 5, 2014

reposting after a commentator pointed out that Big Georgey H must be alright because a…

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the curious case of George Hincapie

  • by Lee Rodgers
  • Posted on May 1, 2014May 8, 2014

I do not know where to start when it comes to George Hincapie. Ex-Lance Armstrong…

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Bruyneel is right: his 10 year ban just is not fair

  • by Lee Rodgers
  • Posted on April 25, 2014May 8, 2014

“The evidence establishes conclusively that Mr Bruyneel was at the apex of a conspiracy to…

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One response to “Bruyneel is right: his 10 year ban just is not fair”

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    Regis Chapman
    May 1, 2014

    I think a distinction needs to be made between punishment (which doesn’t work anyways, and if you don’t believe me, read Punished by Reward by Alfie Kohn) that is “protective use of force” and violence. Reading Non-violent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg might also help contextualize the problems with dopers like this.

    “Fairness” as Bruyneel is using it basically means “treating everyone the same”. The problem is that in the case of Bruyneel and Lance especially, their behavior warrants exclusion basically the protect the sport from these mafia-style narcissists.

    It needs to be clear that not everyone who breaks the rules carries it as far as Lance and Bruyneel did with their legal, fiscal and plain old leverage over the sport that Lance once possessed. As a sport, we MUST protect ourselves from people who think like this and it’s clear that both Lance and Bruyneel are narcissists, who are among the most dangerous people in society, at any level of government, sport or whatever.

    It needs to be clearly stated that their “punishment” is conscious and specific separation from a sport in which they are creating and created a lasting legacy of toxicity.

    Violence is far different than a protective use of force. Protective use of force is done consciously and with restraint, appropriate to the level of danger and threat. It’s clear enough that these guys are a big threat and continue to be.

    It is in this specific sense that Bruyneel’s “punishment” is too short. He shouldn’t be allowed to deal in any sport ever again and neither should Lance.

    When you don’t understand the difference between protective use of force and violence (which is always unwarranted, regardless of what justification you use), then you are automatically confused about “fairness”. It’s clear that Bruyneel isn’t the greatest ethical guy in the world, because if he had, then he’d have stayed retired instead of managed bike racing teams, he’d have waged war on the corruption in sport vs. amplified it, etc.

    I’m not sure how participation in sport when you’re that far gone is justifiable. Maybe they believed their own narcissism for too long?

    I find most journalists quite lacking in the understanding of ethics (but that’s our culture) and allow people like Bruyneel and Lance to decide the nature of the dialogue which is happening around them. If you could stop being complicit in their conduct, they would soon become the pariahs they need to be and be quickly forgotten.

    People who are dopers but are genuinely contrite and NOT NARCISSISTS would warrant a bit better treatment in this regard. It is from this we have a large percentage of other dopers (the majority, in fact) who are too often bundled in the same and rather violent angst we reserve for people like Lance, who we are angry at for being narcissists (like THEY care- it’s all narcissistic supply, after all).

    What we need to do with narcissists is CUT OFF THEIR SUPPLY. The others treat humanely and with some compassion, you know, like people. Narcissists aren’t really people, functioning in society, anymore- except to their own benefit. They are vampires who feed off of our attention, and they always have henchmen like Bruyneel (who was sort of recruited into Lance’s narcissism) and Hincapie, who really isn’t that smart. He benefits by having a smart brother to make up for it.

    If you don’t know about narcissism, read up on it (anything but Sam Vaknin, even though that’s almost impossible at this point), and understand who you are dealing with. How come we (as fans and journalists) know so much about BLOOD now it’s ridiculous, but we know NOTHING on narcissism? Come on you “journalists”. Do better. This is the wheelhouse we’re playing in. Watch the movie on Sam Vaknin and how he operates. Seriously disturbing. Compare that to “Lance in his prime”. You’ll see what I mean, and the danger.

    Crankpunk, I’d like to hear some real insights on this blog related to doping, rather than your own limited version of zero-tolerance angst. I think you can do better. Study your subject matter.

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