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Cookson, Astana, and the Death of Hope

  • by Lee Rodgers
  • Posted on December 12, 2014

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15 responses to “Cookson, Astana, and the Death of Hope”

  1. symonmitchell Avatar
    symonmitchell
    December 12, 2014

    Sound familiar?

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    1. symonmitchell Avatar
      symonmitchell
      December 12, 2014

      Missed this link. It’s Not The Despair …: http://youtu.be/FfnhmuZ27eQ

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      1. crankpunk Avatar
        crankpunk
        December 12, 2014

        exactly!

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  2. Paul Avatar
    Paul
    December 12, 2014

    The Trouble is that seemingly under the current rules Cookson has no choice: http://inrng.com/2014/12/astana-uci-licence/

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    1. crankpunk Avatar
      crankpunk
      December 12, 2014

      like i said, make something up. has a bureaucratic institution never before fabricated or exaggerated reasons to push through unpopular policy? well do it for a popular one. would the majority have supported them? yes.

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      1. Alastair Merrill Avatar
        Alastair Merrill
        December 12, 2014

        I’m with you Lee in feeling exasperated and angry that Astana are coming back in 2015, it really does feel like a big finger to the fans and those clean riders who want fair play and credible performances, but Cookson has to stick by the rules, not change them retrospectively or start making it up as he goes along – we had enough of that PMQ (remember the UCI elections?). I think, and hope, that UCI will be all over Astana next year, and that either there will be more positives and then (please!) real sanctions, or they’ll ride clean (and then disappear from the results?). It’s hard not to think that Vino, the Kazakh Cycling Federation, Astana’s sponsors and all the rest of those involved with this team just don’t care about playing by the rules, but Cookson and the UCI can’t become like them and start bending the rules to get them out.

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  3. karl cosnett Avatar
    karl cosnett
    December 12, 2014

    We can only hope that there is more to come from Astana and that Cookson is playing the long game and wants to secure a removal of their licence in a fashion that would stick. I’ve said myself that they should have pulled it anyway and if CAS give it them back then so be it. At least then the onus shifts to CAS and Cookson can at least say he is doing all he can.

    What I do find disconcerting is that the Kazakh government have not pulled the plug themselves can’t imagine other governments (or SKY) continuing to fund what is now a team with zero credibility.

    If Nibbling wins a grand tour this year I think he will be greeted much the same as Vino was when he won the 2012 Olympic Road race. With disdain and disappointment

    I’ll get my coat

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    1. karl cosnett Avatar
      karl cosnett
      December 12, 2014

      That Nibali……. Think I’ll refer my spellchecker to CAS

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      1. Alastair Merrill Avatar
        Alastair Merrill
        December 12, 2014

        I thought that was deliberate, and I liked it – Nibbling away at his own credibility by staying with the crooks at Astana.

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    2. touristeroutier Avatar
      touristeroutier
      December 12, 2014

      Well, knowing they (the UCI and/or the independent license commission) would lose in CAS, how much is the “symbolism” worth? For the attorneys it would be six figures…Surely there is better use for these funds.

      Change is a process, not an event. While our patience has been stretched, it took decades to get here, it isn’t going to disappear with a swipe of a magic wand.

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    trump
    December 13, 2014

    With the weight of public opinion being stymied by process and procedure I sense there will be renewed focus on bringing vinokourov down. He has certainly left a trail of evidence for anyone to follow up. His removal from the sport we love would surely now be priority number one ….and symbolic like the removal of the repugnant LA.

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  5. crankpunk Avatar
    crankpunk
    December 13, 2014

    dare i say that by believing that Cookson will actually take Vino et al out is another instance of us fooling ourselves that, yes, despite the evidence, things will get better? i hope i am wrong. however, what’s happened to Europcar and the the lack of a statement by the UCI to the fans in the face of this mass bewilderment suggests the opposite.

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    1. touristeroutier Avatar
      touristeroutier
      December 13, 2014

      I don’t understand what your objection to the Europcar decision is? Is it only in relation to giving Astana the nod, while denying them? The audit and review of Europcar’s budget showed them to be insolvent for the World Tour, albeit by only 6%. History has shown plenty of teams shafting their riders and staff, with no recourse. The fiscal review is a process the UCI put in place to help protect riders and staff from such circumstances.

      In the end, the decision will probably not effect Europcar too much from a racing perspective. Assuming they get a Pro-Continental license, they will most likely get invites to the TDF, and many other events they prefer. Sure, they will probably be left out of some races (particularly in Italy), but does it really matter to them?

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  6. DukeLukem Avatar
    DukeLukem
    December 13, 2014

    Poor article – refer to The Race Radio on Twitter, Cosmo Catalano on the week in bike or INRNG for some intelligent commentary on this. CAS would 100% have backed Astana.

    Now they have been warned and a framework has been set out for monitoring them they can legally be kicked out later on.

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    1. DukeLukem Avatar
      DukeLukem
      February 27, 2015

      See announcement today – very much as predicted here in my comment from December!

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