{"id":5822,"date":"2015-03-02T16:12:24","date_gmt":"2015-03-02T16:12:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/crankpunk.com\/?p=5822"},"modified":"2023-11-22T00:58:20","modified_gmt":"2023-11-22T00:58:20","slug":"jonathan-vaughters-graces-twitter-with-a-description-of-crankpunk-as-a-talentless-wanna-be-writing-a-self-promotional-blog-compliment-accepted","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/crankpunk.com\/ja\/2015\/03\/02\/jonathan-vaughters-graces-twitter-with-a-description-of-crankpunk-as-a-talentless-wanna-be-writing-a-self-promotional-blog-compliment-accepted\/","title":{"rendered":"Jonathan Vaughters graces Twitter with a description of crankpunk as a “talentless wanna-be writing [a] self-promotional blog”… Compliment accepted"},"content":{"rendered":"

A Twitter spat. My first. And with the mighty JV. I am honored.<\/p>\n

Some back story…<\/p>\n

It’s no secret that I feel that all former dopers – all – should not be welcomed back in any capacity whatsoever into the fabric of cycling, be it as managers, coaches, team owners or administrators.<\/p>\n

I also feel that the UCI has to work to foster an environment in which teams are encouraged to and feel perfectly at ease with adopting employment policies which mean former riders and doctors that were\/are considered tainted are no longer able to find work within the sport too.<\/p>\n

This would mean no Riis, no Vino (well he might be off soon enough), and no Jonathan Vaughters. I’m not the only person to think this way by a long shot, however opinions like this are not often aired on CyclingSnooze nor on any of the other major sites and magazines, because if they were then these media outlets would lose access to quite a few teams and they may lose advertising booty from the team sponsors.<\/p>\n

You also have certain former dopers now in management running or on the board of ‘important’ committees and organisations. The oft heard claim is that these former dopers know how to steer the sport along a new course because they have been there, done that.<\/p>\n

Or been there, done this, and that, and yeah a bit of that, oh and yes, a shit load of that! And so on.<\/p>\n

The problem here, as many can plainly see, is that you have former cheats supplying their own, often-changing narrative, one that justifies their doping in the first place (‘Everyone was doing it’ – not true<\/em>) – a doping that was uncovered either at the time or years later yet never was confessed to until their pants were already down<\/em> and their d**ks in hand – that therefore justifies the wealth and status they acquired with it – and finally justifies their position in the sport now (‘I was there, I am sorry, but let me help!’).<\/p>\n

It is, as my Gran used to say, a proper bag of bollocks.<\/p>\n

If you want to read more on my opinion of Vaughters and these others being in the sport, read here <\/a>and, if you want to know why I think he should be out of Change Cycling Now, read here<\/a>. It’s not the first time JV and I have ‘chatted’, previously we were going to have a chat on the phone but it never quite worked out, with, as far as I can recall, nothing but work getting in the way for both of us.<\/p>\n

Which brings us to Twitter.<\/p>\n

Earlier today I saw a little tweet from Vaughters about how he wished to invite two guys to listen to a talk he was giving in London about something connected to cycling and doping.<\/p>\n

I then asked via a tweet if that was after the talk on dopers managing cycling teams.<\/p>\n

Vaughters then replied with this:<\/p>\n

Jonathan Vaughters (@Vaughters) tweeted at 10:03 pm on Mon, Mar 02, 2015:<\/em>
\n@crankpunk101 It was going to be right after the talk on talentless wanna-bes writing self promotional blogs.<\/strong>
\n (https:\/\/twitter.com\/Vaughters\/status\/572396774544969729?s=03<\/a>)<\/em><\/p>\n

The original I either can’t find or has been deleted, but here is an image of the tweet in Q:<\/p>\n

\"1425311801655\"<\/p>\n

Let’s take a look at this, a little more closely… Well, we don’t have to get too close do we.<\/p>\n

It’s the Omerta again. ‘Shut up please, your opinion does not coincide with the reality I have constructed so please go away.’<\/p>\n

Self-promotional? I can take that, there is an element to that in all we do, and yes there is that here in crankpunk, ego is as ego does, but the points I am making –\u00a0we\u00a0<\/em>are making, meaning a large chunk of cyclists – remain to be answered.<\/p>\n

As for the comment on Twitter – thanks. Compliment accepted.<\/p>\n

___________________________________________<\/p>\n

Postscript<\/em><\/p>\n

Jonathan Vaughters apologised for his original tweet on Twitter which I read after I posted this and asked to talk. I stand by the article above though, and will be arranging an interview shortly, watch http:\/\/www.crankpunk.com<\/a> for that.<\/em><\/p>\n

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A Twitter spat. My first. And with the mighty JV. I am honored. Some back story… It’s no secret that I feel that all former dopers – all – should not be welcomed back in any capacity whatsoever into the fabric of cycling, be it as managers, coaches, team owners or administrators. I also feel that the UCI has to work to foster an environment in which teams are encouraged to and feel perfectly at ease with adopting employment policies which mean former riders and doctors that were\/are considered tainted are no longer able to find work within the sport too. 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